What makes a song an underground anthem? Is it more important to have an iconic beat that soundtracked a generation? Is a big, hooky chorus the most important thing? Perhaps lyrics with inspiring levels of wordplay. We discuss all that and more, name some of our personal picks, and then turn our attention to Time’s Up, the signature track and underground anthem from our guest this week, the legendary rapper O.C. The DITC member has released over 20 albums full of knotty lyrics and street wisdom with a wide range of collaborators. He joins us to tell some stories about his come up, his working relationships with cats like Pharoahe Monch and Lord Finesse, and to talk about his career, including revelations that longtime fans will not want to miss. DBRP is but one of the excellent podcasts on the Stony Island Audio podcast network.